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Welcome to 3Shape Study Group!

Our mission is to be your go to source for quick, easy, and FREE help with anything related to 3Shape Dental System or the Trios Intraoral Scanner.

We know digital dentistry can be tough, and like a lot of technicians and dentists, I know I struggled managing all the ins and outs of moving from conventional to digital dentistry. I still do!

That is where this group comes in. As of this writing, we have more than 30,000(!) members from over 235 countries that can help you with whatever it is you can’t quite figure out. We invite you to post your cases, workflows, comments, and photos as we all work together to help one another!

The best part? It’s free!

The admins/mods of this group work hard to keep it free of ads, trophy posting, and anything unrelated to our singular focus: That no one should have to struggle at their desk figuring out how to finish a case for a client! Enjoy!

-Michael Frazier

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3 hours ago

Deleting order will put order into windows bin? Can we get this? In case someone accidentally click delete and goodbye humanity forever… ... See MoreSee Less

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You can allready adjust setting in CP deleting case in database but keep files.

2 weeks ago

It would be valuable to have the ability to place case numbers in the denture positioning guide. From time to time we get modeless cases and this would help to match them to a pan. ... See MoreSee Less

It would be valuable to have the ability to place case numbers in the denture positioning guide.  From time to time we get modeless cases and this would help to match them to a pan.

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Bring the guide into copy denture add the name , but yeah it could be easier if it was automated

I always write the name of patient on the outside rim of puck when I do my nesting!

Could you show me order form that case? Thanks you so much

2 months ago

Seriously, half the time I copy/reopen cases all the additional scans lose their alignment. Sometimes I spent a hell of a long time align things (can we please have alignment functionality in 3d viewer???) so it is highly vexatious. Look at this bouquet of sadness below. ... See MoreSee Less

Seriously, half the time I copy/reopen cases all the additional scans lose their alignment. Sometimes I spent a hell of a long time align things (can we please have alignment functionality in 3d viewer???) so it is highly vexatious.  Look at this bouquet of sadness below.

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Omg, this is annoying as hell honestly as well when you open and your alignment just disappear completely

We need it ASAP🙏🙏 Just the complete additional scan tool in 3D viewer will save us so many ghost orders and so much time

Rafael Galiakberow Samir Zubcevic

This has been really annoying.

4 weeks ago

UI/UX: 3Shape Unite Store only letting the user install all updates at once is very limiting. Maybe I want to update one module but hold off on updating other modules due to known issues with the latest version.
Should let the user install updates individually. By all means, also give the option to install all for convenience too.

Apple App store on MacOS is clearly the inspiration behind 3Shape Unite Store. At least copy the good features too!
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1 month ago

Can we get a copy and append that only saves the outside surface of everything? Right now it appends as a bunch of discreet objects that causes all sorts of annoyances. I run it every single time through meshmixer to flatten it all. ... See MoreSee Less

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Make solid

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2 months ago

It would be so cool to be able to add additional s scan and have the possibility to align them when using trios.
Most of the time when I want to do this I have to duplicate the case and then I export manually.

Like when I want to scan a prep under a partial removable

Prep without partial
Prep with partial
Partial alone

… I hope it makes sense for you too.
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Thank you for feedback Alexandre. This is for sure quite high on our list 🙂

Yes! We need it asap!:) And the 3shape viewer functionality builtin in trios/implant studio as well. Would make it way more functional and would make more sense with some full digital protocols!:)

Multiple bite function without duplicating the case would be very useful

2 months ago

This is probably the 3rd time I'm suggesting this, we need the full denture tooth moving tools in Crown and Bridge. The blue dot, the arrows being available from cranial view. ... See MoreSee Less

This is probably the 3rd time Im suggesting this, we need the full denture tooth moving tools in Crown and Bridge. The blue dot, the arrows being available from cranial view.Image attachmentImage attachment

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Ditto & same 💯

But does that limit things in regards to anatomy for reuse?

2 months ago

Would be great if we had a tool for the 2D cross section similar to the arch spline in implant studio where you can set a spline for the cross section to follow, then i could just scrub through my immediate proposed extractions and ridge reductions quickly to make sure I'm prepping the virtual model properly rather than dragging and rotating the cross section every few mm to check. ... See MoreSee Less

Would be great if we had a tool for the 2D cross section similar to the arch spline in implant studio where you can set a spline for the cross section to follow, then i could just scrub through my immediate proposed extractions and ridge reductions quickly to make sure Im prepping the virtual model properly rather than dragging and rotating the cross section every few mm to check.

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I like

Like panoramic curve in implant studio.

It would be really nice if we could use the morphing tool instead of just wax knife in the sculpt on model after the digital extraction. Takes way to much time really dialing in your extraction points for immediate dentures

Blenderfordental.com

Would also be nice to have the possibility to rotate the view in 2d crossection and viewer

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2 months ago

We do a lot of copy denture and then new impression inside the copy to make the new ones. It would be great if there was a feature to remove like 2mm of material inside the copy denture in the design stage before milling/printing to make room for the impression material. Right now we grind and grind.... ... See MoreSee Less

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Hi, Chris, thank you for the suggestion, we'll see what can be done. For now you can use blocking wax to add 2mm to the scan. Set 2mm, it's 4mm by default, limit on Sculpt blocking wax and add wax manually

2 months ago

Is it possible to get the stippling tool in the fixed workflows. It would be great to be able to paint the tissue on an All-On-X for stipple.

As someone has said on here before, "All tools in all situations" (Minh Tran).
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Export when finished import into copy denture and paint/create is the current work around

2 months ago

It would be super handy if we could switch implant component on the go...without modifiying order etc....You go over scan body aligment and then, watch out, you can, based on implant coordinates, try different ti bases, MUA's, angulated MUA's, different height and what stays selected it's choosen in order automatically...for instance so annoying to align scan flags, go into design, see that height or angle is off, go back to order, reproduce steps till design again etc...

It would be super cool find out in 3Shape which component we need without try&error...use them, order is automatically modified...And push library manufacturers to use also REF numbers....
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Yes for sure! Trios design studio has this and it's amazing.

Scanned cases modifying works when I modify a digital impression it typically crashes

Totally Agree Scan - identify the implant platform coordinates. Then choose parts for the restoration based off design.

Expert mode.. 🙏😂

yes this would be fantastic!

With Mark Smith 's permission I'll post a video of trios design studio switching implant components

Feast your eyes on the this: Trios design studio with implants. So pretty.

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2 months ago

Wouldn't it be nice if there as a button to set the current design as the initial starting point and delete all design history? This will speed up the full arch cases because you won't have to wait for the redesign when you go back to change one margin, for example, and come back to design. Manipulation the 'Anatomy for reuse' folder is cumbersome. ... See MoreSee Less

Wouldnt it be nice if there as a button to set the current design as the initial starting point and delete all design history? This will speed up the full arch cases because you wont have to wait for the redesign when you go back to change one margin, for example, and come back to design. Manipulation the Anatomy for reuse folder is cumbersome.

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Yes, good idea. Especially if you send the Doc 2 designs, make the 1st the starting point and the 2nd the end of the design. If he choses 1st, just undo all, if he choses 2nd, then it'll open that one.

Great idea 👍

Fantastic idea that is probably doable. In fact….

Great idea! It would be nice if it automatically updated the antaglio surface when modified as well instead of just the bite. Too many steps required.

Love the ideal.

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Oooooo get on it 3shape!!!!

Whoa. I think my mind just broke in half

Such a good idea!! 😁😁😁

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2 months ago

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2 months ago

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3 months ago

would be cool is the undo feature had a date and time for each step. sometimes you open a case from the day before and do a bunch of stupid shit you regret and want to revert to yesterdays design, but don't know where you started. ... See MoreSee Less

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You are spending too much time thinking about things. Try less clicks and less minutes. Sometimes it’s a you problem and not a software problem 😂😂😂

Save a backup copy of your anatomy folder. And modeling tree file. Then you can always go back.

And the idea makes sense, noted

3 months ago

Dear 3Shape, can we or could we get AUX tool also in 3D preview? Sometimes it would be nice to be able to export some parts of case directly without going into opening case... ... See MoreSee Less

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Hi, Ales. What is AUX tool? And what is the need to export only some parts of the case? And what parts are exactly are we talking about?

Yesss this! So many phantom orders just to align scans... If 3d preview had additional scans that would be very sweet.

3 months ago

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Can we just get rid of the dongle somehow??? I hate carting that thing around when I am doing trainings or on vacation. Having to overnight it because I forgot the stupid thing. What is the point!?

Interesting - do we have usb requirements in our specs for PC?

Agree but in the meantime get usb server and VPN…

Use an usb hub 👻

But dongles are so 2019 😂

Minh, I have a solution 😌

Yes! If they are listening…. We need an accurate solution for aligning CBCT and iOS scans for design fabrication of surgical guides, immediate provisionals, and final hybrids. asap🙏🏼

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3 months ago

I’d love a tool like this…
An open source CAD program-Freeform has my favourite tool- “Layer” you activate the part, select tool size, select layer thickness, and then “add”
It makes it super easy to bulk up one area on a part vs another.
Example: one of my DR likes a “bulky” lingual portion of the tray but a slim buccal area. A tool like this would be great.
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I’d love a tool like this… 
An open source CAD program-Freeform has my favourite tool- “Layer” you activate the part, select tool size, select layer thickness, and then “add”
It makes it super easy to bulk up one area on a part vs another. 
Example: one of my DR likes a “bulky” lingual portion of the tray but a slim buccal area. A tool like this would be great.
3 months ago

Could we have “Digital impression” as an option for the “3D bite plate” in workorder? ... See MoreSee Less

3 months ago

Can be possible to change the color of the model on Implants copy bridge, please ! gray maybe , that yellow is something else . Thanks ... See MoreSee Less

3 months ago

It would be nice if we had a reduction coping tools in the next version. ... See MoreSee Less

3 months ago

The ability to place attachments in the very last step of the denture module, like "Finalize" in C&B. Cause if I place these in the "sculpt anatomy" and/or "sculpt denture base" step, I get error after error even if I select "monoblock". ... See MoreSee Less

The ability to place attachments in the very last step of the denture module, like Finalize in C&B. Cause if I place these in the sculpt anatomy and/or sculpt denture base step, I get error after error even if I select monoblock.

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What is the need to have attachments there?

If you looking for screwholes in the denture, wait till the new 2022 release😉

3 months ago

It would be nice to have an estimate time left or any status of how long it will take us to install/set up Unite/Trios software. I hate staring at a screen. ... See MoreSee Less

It would be nice to have an estimate time left or any status of how long it will take us to install/set up Unite/Trios software. I hate staring at a screen.
3 months ago

For the love of god! Can this please stop happening when an order is loaded with a digital
Impression. The work around is soooo tedious and shouldn’t be necessary.
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For the love of god! Can this please stop happening when an order is loaded with a digital
Impression. The work around is soooo tedious and shouldn’t be necessary.

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This happens even when you select digital impression ? (Not model)

Check "impression"!!! Problem solved.

4 months ago

Make additional scans a different colour than prep arch and opposing. So we can clearly see them contrasted when overlaying them. ... See MoreSee Less

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And make it optional to save aditional scans in other colour!

Been noted many times, sorry don't think it will make it into 2022 though.😉

4 months ago

For God sake, can you please make choosen icon be HIGHLIGHTED so that normal person knows what has been choosen as indication! Asking for this since... ... See MoreSee Less

For God sake, can you please make choosen icon be HIGHLIGHTED so that normal person knows what has been choosen as indication! Asking for this since...

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At my desktop it's blue colored

Mine is also blue highlighted..

Regarding this is Win11 issue as support says so...

For as far as I know its a windows 11 glitch

Yes I correctly it's a bug on windows 11, but it should only happen on clients pc of a server client

We were advised don't upgrade for win11, friend of my upgraded, and since that his is like that.

This sounds like a rough day. Have a drink Ales Tomsic it’s Friday 🍻

OS Windows is responsible for this setting. It's possible to adjust it by changing windows theme www.laptopmag.com/how-to/change-a-theme-or-customize-one-on-windows-11

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4 months ago

If i can suggest a function, it will be the "shade monitoring". ... See MoreSee Less

4 months ago

I would like to be able to output a fixed case with split file
1. Base/gingival file with holes to whatever connection I’ve chosen
2. Tooth file that fits into the base file with holes for the corresponding screw channels

Pretty please and thank you

I can currently create all the files I need but it takes several orders and is a hassle
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Will try base with designed teeth over implants on my next case and report back with results

4 months ago

Request: double right click to align the viewport perpendicular to the surface normal that was clicked. ... See MoreSee Less

4 months ago

Cerec Connect still needs improvements. The file success has improved but there is still a problem when additional scans are added to the Cerec file before the doctor sends the file. It seems the problem is with 3Shape’s interpretation of these scans. BioCopy Upper or BioCopy Lower needs to be interpreted as Prepreparation and Scanbody Upper or Scanbody Lower needs to be interpreted as Implant Alignment Arch. Currently, any additional scans cause the import to fail through 3Shape Communicate. The antagonist ends up missing along with any additional scans. Please resolve this issue ASAP. ... See MoreSee Less

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Samir Zubcevic Rafael Galiakberow

4 months ago

Can we super pretty please have an option to always generate an STL no matter what the manufacturing process is set to? I would love to crank out a CAM5 and an STL for every case.

Examples of why this matters:

You have an ivoclar mill and a roland mill and don't know which one you will use for each case so you want the flexibility

You don't know if you will press or mill emax

You are going to print a denture first and then potentially mill it also.

Would be an easy fix, but would be really nice.

Thanks!
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Also if the the Copy Reuse Cad can always pull from the stl monoblock it would make aligning much easier if there is a new bite!!

This is my favorite feature of Exocad and 3Shape neeeeedddss it!

I believe that you can no? If you set the manufacturing type to Cam 5 and afterwoods you generate the manufacturing and visualisation output don't you have a Cam 5 and an STL? No sure of what I'm saying

4 months ago

Hello everyone. In my honest opinion, I think 3shape is a great software to design, it gives you freedom and if you know how to, you can design everything.

But that doesn’t mean there is no room for improvement. In my daily routine, some options I would love to be included to make life easier are :

1-When morphing to waxup scan, I’d like to have a finish line , the same as when you copy a tooth from prep scan. Sometimes waxups are with gingiva and we have to make a lot of manually adjuatments just because the software morphs the tooth also to the gingiva. also the quality of morphing to be more sharp ??

2-When desiging cases more than 1 unit, I’d love to have an option that doesn’t let teeth overlap each other(it can be checked or unchecked same as sculpt on protected surface), it can be good for contact points but also not to have so much work figuring out each mesial and distal area for ex . 24 single units( some technicians might know how much work this needs.)

3-How about having the option to lock some certain areas of the tooth while designing , it can be done with painting for example,or by drawing a line, and we know that we are not doing anything to that part of tooth. Sometimes to fix something we go and change something we don’t want to and the shape changes drastically. It is a 3D design but we have 2D control over them , not the same as keeping the crown in your hands.

4-Wax knife for minus to have options of tool shapes ?

Maybe none of them is possible, but as a suggestion group I though to share my thoughts.
Full contour designs are becoming headline in today’s dentistry and in my opinin is fair to make them better for our customers, but also our life easier 😛
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4 months ago

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You can find the compatibility chart on the website
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New compatibility 🤩
5 months ago

I was looking at getting a t-scan (tekscan) for integration of full arch cases. Seems that this technology could easily be adopted into the 3shape software and scanner. Would be an invaluable tool to add to digital articulation. Full arch cases would become a slam dunk! ... See MoreSee Less

5 months ago

Way too many times I got a request from dentists to include pano screen shot with case.
It would be nice of 3shape to automatically include if in surgical report.
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Way too many times I got a request from dentists to include pano screen shot with case. 
It would be nice of 3shape to automatically include if in surgical report.

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Yes please. When I plan my own cases I have to screen shot. If I farm it out to Scan can I don’t have it available…also it would be nice when we cut teeth to fit guide tubes a report would be automatically generated that says which teeth to ext, where to shave so we remember….I may or may not have ext wrong tooth before then free handed

5 months ago

Would it be possible to have an easy way in Trios were we could create demo cases library from our cases to show patient? Maybe an app where we could chose before and after scans and labeled cases. Labels like veneers, crown, bridge, various implant restoration. The patients name needs to be removed. ... See MoreSee Less

6 months ago

Can someone explain to me why copy denture ask for "cloud" "point" something file- I'm tired. Instead of offering the option of DCM,STL,CLOUD? ... See MoreSee Less

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When does it ask about it?

following

6 months ago

Can we have the occlusal plane of the virtual articulator match the position of the occlusal plane we set in the Model Analysis step? Often we need to open the VDO arbitrarily for a try-in monoblock case so this would save us a step in having to move the plane into proper position again ... See MoreSee Less

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And have it set the position in the virtual articulator as well.

6 months ago

My Design 😍
My Wax after milling 👌
#3shape
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My Design 😍
My Wax after milling 👌
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6 months ago

Sometimes it's tough to get a proper connection between the base and the model. In some cases I had to move the base straight to the molar. Wouldn't it be cool to have the option to mark an area and click "connect"!? ... See MoreSee Less

Sometimes its tough to get a proper connection between the base and the model. In some cases I had to move the base straight to the molar. Wouldnt it be cool to have the option to mark an area and click connect!?
6 months ago

When I look at a case in 3shape communicate portal can I tell if the dr has marked the margins? If so how if not then I suggest that

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Happens often to us as well. Doctor calls: did you receive my scan? I look it up in 3ShapeCommunicated portal (website), quality is crap, can't see a thing. Go to DentalSystem, wait for ages for the case to load in 3D preview, can't see margins. Have to accept the case and open it and go through all the initial steps just to see if there's a margin. Combined with the re-sellers telling doctors "don't mark the margins, the lab prefers to do it"...

6 months ago

When importing STLs or complete orders into 3Shape, it seems like the folder gets "locked" and we then cannot rename or move any files for a while. Not sure if it's a 3Shape issue or Windows file system issue, but makes management of our files convoluted. ... See MoreSee Less

6 months ago

Can I request a thickness heatmap in copy denture. Almost sculpted this a bit too thin without any visual indicator. ... See MoreSee Less

Can I request a thickness heatmap in copy denture. Almost sculpted this a bit too thin without any visual indicator.

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Great idea!

Or a minimum thickness constraint

Taras Kucher

6 months ago

Can something be put in the code that if an indication gets added to an opposing the software will just rename the antagonist file to preparation?

A bunch of us can just casually go in rename stuff, but seems like an easy fix to save headaches for newer techs
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No, newbies need to earn it like we have 😂

What code? Is there a secret code?

6 months ago

Id love to be able to toggle off the color on scans by default in CP. when I open an order, I can't tell you how many times a day I have to go monochrome ... See MoreSee Less

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Agreed. Color is distracting

Yes, same here!

YEP!

6 months ago

Scanning multiple units for Atlantis using the same scan body is a completely horrible experience, whatever you changed, can you please change it back to 2016 ... See MoreSee Less

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#DentalTechTip: use globs of blutak and knead them into cylinders that are roughly the same height as the atlantis scan bodies, then place them in each implant site and use that as your pre-scan, highlight, and swap scan bodies from site-to-site as needed

6 months ago

The tooth removal part of implant studio is absolutely dire. No bandaid tool, no ability to sculpt the tissue. God forbid there is a black triangle or more than one tooth in a row. I've given up on it. I import the scans into a fake order in dental designer, remove the teeth there and export again. Every tool in every indication anyone? ... See MoreSee Less

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You rang?

Also, to allow a change of indication at any time would be nice.

Also, if I could add, it's extra annoying because when you remove a tooth it would be nice to go back and forth with the ct scan to see if you exo you did is reasonable. Too much and your guide with get hung up on bone, too little and the guide will be unnecessarily thin. Now I sometimes have to go back and forth around two different programs and amend the implant studio design to the new models everytime.

And adding a virtual tooth is a pain where you don’t want an implant but need one added to see what sizes spaces etc etc

Adam Stoot 3Shape

We completely recognize the shortcomings of the tooth-removal step, and this is on our list of areas to revisit.

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6 months ago

Hello,

Can I suggest having the ability to sculpt on die at the Margin Line stage? Would help with reduction coping designs so you know when your good vs toggling back/forth to Prepare stage
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Or… you know…. Sculpting on die at… any stage😅

I'd love to be able to ditch around the die and have the margin be locked

Re install an older version..........lmfao! No but seriously, #anytoolanytime

6 months ago
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Can someone confirm what configuration is needed to be able to design in 2 computers with 1 dongle ? I used to do it that way , but since a subscription update this year , i am not able to dot it . Thanks ... See MoreSee Less

6 months ago

Someone who can help me please. how to ditch in the model ... See MoreSee Less

Someone who can help me please.  how to ditch in the model

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Don’t bother. Scan is terrible

7 months ago

Why in the world would 3Shape decide to remove the snapshot/screenshot tool in Dental Designer 21.2.2? Can we please get it back? ... See MoreSee Less

Why in the world would 3Shape decide to remove the snapshot/screenshot tool in Dental Designer 21.2.2? Can we please get it back?

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Totally agree!!! I asked it couple of weeks ago... Only reactions was use windows snapshot...

7 months ago

I'm a dentist using ImplantStudio for all my implant planning. With the latest update I cannot make virtual bridge, just virtual crown. Could it be possible to bring back the bridge option in planning?

The only way around currently seems to put virtual crown everywhere but I have to place implants under every tooth. So it create a guide with guide tubes colliding or not being use. With multiple single virtual crown, I'm also unable to move multiple unit together so it become much more work to create these crown in the right position.

Also I would like to be able to send my planning with the virtual teeth to an external lab so they could finalized my design and make an interim printed or milled immediate prosthesis.

Maybe I need Dental system to do what I would like, but I won't be using much of it apart from the virtual bridge option that was in ImplantStudio prior to Unite upgrade.
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I am struggling with the same thing! I just started designing the virtual crowns as temp on prepared in dental designer, combining it with additional scans and importing it in implant studio as a preprep. Not as nice as before, but it does have the benefit that if I need to do an immediate temp or even the final down the road, I can convert the design easily.

I posted about this a month ago and no one responded btw

Birk Ploennigs (adam is not on)

Hi all, my apologies for that error in the software. We are aware of it and working on a solution. I will get back to you tomorrow with an update on the time line.

Hi all, Also sorry from my side about this issue. We have some weeks ago released a temporary fix. When selecting the Implant Studio action, it is possible to add additional virtual crowns (besides the one(s) under the implant(s)) by selecting the single restorations and "crown on prep" - these will be treated as additional virtual crowns. Virtual crowns placed next to each other will act as a virtual bridge, and can be scaled together. A proper fix, where multiple virtual crowns can be added while placing the implant, will be released during the summer, but at least the full functionality is available now using the "crown on prep". Hope this helps!

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8 months ago

We used to have this bug upto the DS20 and I wished it would never be fixed but it's gone in the DS21. Can you add this 'No shine' as an option in the future DS? I find it much easier to see the margins with the matt color compared to the shiny color scan. This bug happens when you 'Save' the scan using the 'Addition scans' and 'Load' it back to the order. Pretty simple. This was a HAPPY BUG for me. 🙂 Now I have to 'Save' the scan using the 'Additional scans', then create a new order form using the 'Design Module: DentalDesigner 2020', Open the order, then go through the usual process to create he matt version. 🙁 It's too time consuming. I want this bug back as a new feature!! ... See MoreSee Less

We used to have this bug upto the DS20 and I wished it would never be fixed but its gone in the DS21. Can you add this No shine as an option in the future DS? I find it much easier to see the margins with the matt color compared to the shiny color scan. This bug happens when you Save the scan using the Addition scans and Load it back to the order. Pretty simple. This was a HAPPY BUG for me. :-) Now I have to Save the scan using the Additional scans, then create a new order form using the Design Module: DentalDesigner 2020, Open the order, then go through the usual process to create he matt version. :-( Its too time consuming. I want this bug back as a new feature!!Image attachmentImage attachment

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I can't test it right now, but try this: Click the "fullscreen" icon in the right-hand toolbar (looks like 4 arrows pointing towards the corners) or press F11 A top menu will appear, click on "file" (first menu) Click preferences Un-check Material Shaders

Nice retraction!

I think it can be done, as I recall while ago Lorant Stumpf did some modifications but forgot where, maybe it’s in 3shape study group if you search his posts…

7 months ago

Can we get implant studio to spit out a quick and dirty model to print at the end? Annoying to make two order forms. ... See MoreSee Less

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Will Varda What prevents ordering digital models in Dental System together with Implant Studio indications?

Just use Model Maker

7 months ago

The ability to change the assembly type on-the-fly at the last step ... See MoreSee Less

The ability to change the assembly type on-the-fly at the last step

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Am I missing something? Once you set up the order as milled base and milled teeth for example, the CAM output will be CAM5 for all of that, plus CAM5 for monoblock, plus 2 STL's for printing monoblock. So, why would you need that?

Yes please

We also need those option for copy denture.

Yeah I hate that glitch. The stl that 3shape generates there sometime gets funky with the monoblock.

what an amazing library of teeth you are using! where to get it?

Also be able to change on the fly/erase connectors or add.

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7 months ago

Can we get the wax tools in implant studio for finalizing the guide? Putting support bars everywhere is so clunky when I just want to thicken an area. ... See MoreSee Less

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Quick bandaid is to bring it into copy denture after the fact and clean it up

7 months ago

Realview during the Sculpt denture base step, sometimes you want to visualize high smile line and if it shows too much gum or not ... See MoreSee Less

Realview during the Sculpt denture base step, sometimes you want to visualize high smile line and if it shows too much gum or not
7 months ago

The "Arc Transformation" tool would be more useful if the adjacent teeth maintained the contacts rather than being separated like this. ... See MoreSee Less

The Arc Transformation tool would be more useful if the adjacent teeth maintained the contacts rather than being separated like this.

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Yes to add to this: arc transformation would work so much better If it followed compensating curves in the posterior and rotated along the marginal ridges/long axis almost like everything was attached with a string that connected through the central fossa

They simply need to bring almost every feature from the denture module into C&B and we all be happy!

See how excodad handles this situation. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wez8kpyfqDg

7 months ago

After I have designed a denture as a digital impression I would like to be able to use copy reuse cad and scan a new bite in scan it dental. Because it was designed with a digital impression I am only able to import scans which makes the workflow complicated and doesn't always work. ... See MoreSee Less

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Yes, please! Drives us bonkers!

Agreed.

In the coming 2022 version there is a new option that you can copy and reuse cad design and import the new scanned tryin denture from the trios

Yay!

7 months ago

Paint surface to protect: I know it's been requested here a few times before by many users. But I'll toss it in here again.

Very often, when working on a case like this copy denture with a wash, it would be nice to paint the teeth and cervicals to protect those surfaces from sculpting... and if i want to smooth away excess impression material, or maybe get a bit more artistic with sculpting the base, I can do it a bit more haphazardly without worrying about my teeth.

Not only for this application, but for a few other indications that would really benefit from locking a surface to protect it from my fat-finger tool use
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Paint surface to protect: I know its been requested here a few times before by many users. But Ill toss it in here again.

Very often, when working on a case like this copy denture with a wash, it would be nice to paint the teeth and cervicals to protect those surfaces from sculpting... and if i want to smooth away excess impression material, or maybe get a bit more artistic with sculpting the base, I can do it a bit more haphazardly without worrying about my teeth.

Not only for this application, but for a few other indications that would really benefit from locking a surface to protect it from my fat-finger tool use

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paint and lock the margins so we can remove tissue.

Yes!!!

7 months ago

If scan abutments code for “implant position” why can the system not allow for restoratively driven abutment planning for screw retained restorations.

It would be preferable to design the restoration and select through available abutment systems for that implant system from Any manufacturer DME to make the best choice of abutment from a restorative space, emergence, analog choice, model design etc.

Guessing from digital scans to select parts from limited catalogs is far from ideal. It either decreases outcome or wastes time.

This change would also improve model builder.

Systems with analogs you or your account prefer could be chosen for the model work, abutments chosen for the best clinical result.

The data is all there.
This would be brilliant.
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If scan abutments code for “implant position” why can the system not allow for restoratively driven abutment planning for screw retained restorations.

It would be preferable to design the restoration and select through available abutment systems for that implant system from Any manufacturer DME to make the best choice of abutment from a restorative space, emergence, analog choice, model design etc.

Guessing from digital scans to select parts from limited catalogs is far from ideal. It either decreases outcome or wastes time.

This change would also improve model builder.

Systems with analogs you or your account prefer could be chosen for the model work, abutments chosen for the best clinical result.

The data is all there. 
This would be brilliant.
7 months ago

Curious why there is a limit to 10 additional scan files in an order is it a resource thing or???? ... See MoreSee Less

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It will overload DS and self destruct.

Probably some variable that has an arbitrary limit of memory allocation

You really tested this?! Good to know!😄

Hm... what could be the reason to have more than 10 scans? And how many are needed? And you're correct, it's all about resources. One TRIOS scan has ~500 000 triangles. 15 scans(2 jaw scans+bite+2 pre-prep scans + 10 additionals scans) in total will have ~750000 triangles. Adding more might decrease fps to a very low values I'm not sure if the most beautifull 3D games have such amount of triangles at the same time drawn in the scene. Because a lot of different techniques are used there for optimisation. E.g LOD(Level of Detail) is a technique of reducing mesh complexity as objects become more distant from the viewer.) developer.arm.com/documentation/102496/0100/Level-of-Detail---LOD

7 months ago

When using several remote designers and sending orders for them. It would be very helpful to have several options for checked out orders. Ex different colors or names on the checked out icon. To keep track of witch remote designer has what orders. ... See MoreSee Less

When using several remote designers and sending orders for them. It would be very helpful to have several options for checked out orders. Ex different colors or names on the checked out icon.  To keep track of witch remote designer has what orders.
7 months ago

My biggest problem with outsourcing is I cannot correct the margins, insertion directions, etc. easily. 3Shape has so many errors with this. Exocad let’s you correct everything. Why does 3Shape withhold so much control from its users? ... See MoreSee Less

My biggest problem with outsourcing is I cannot correct the margins, insertion directions, etc. easily. 3Shape has so many errors with this. Exocad let’s you correct everything. Why does 3Shape withhold so much control from its users?

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So it's 3 Shape's fault for your choice of designer?

I have no problem with IOS or correcting margins if needed.

Don’t understand completely, why is 3shape fault if you outsource design and you can correct margin etc? That is designers job…

And also you wrote in 3shape group you are looking for a designer, so can you explain what exact suggestion you have or this post has no sense…sorry…

What errors? Fixing a margin line on a two unit case is easy peasy. Maybe if you post them we can help you figure it out

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7 months ago

It would be great if the trimmed part of scan on full dentures could become the base of the denture automatically.
This would save lots of time on creating a new spline as well as in sculpting stage.
Also ensures the best possible fit.
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8 months ago

Please allow us to place text/patient names with modelmaker 😀 ... See MoreSee Less

8 months ago

Can someone tell me what is best VPN to use for detached dongel? Argen has my dongel license and suggested my IT guy downloads VPN to laptop. He asked which one labs are using. Thank you ... See MoreSee Less

8 months ago

I wish copy and append to cad design would remove the separation between the crown and the model and just generate a solid shell. Making nightguards under crowns, etc.. always generate so many errors due to the crack between the crown and the model. Usually I have to run things through meshmixer to seal it all. ... See MoreSee Less

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Meshmixer is the way… or rub it through model builder and attach designs to the scan

Yes please!! Meshmixer shouldn’t have to be our go to!

I dream of a world one day when I don't have to teach my staff Meshmixer...

Copy and append to preparation scan was never designed for printing, it is needed to reuse the scan+design digitally. The functionality to combine scan and design for manufacturing has been introduced in Model Builder 2020

8 months ago

Tiny annoying thing about model builder that's always bothered me. If you ever need to go back to redesign/step backwards

It always changes the value of the text depth into a positive value, so instead of embossing the text, it becomes positive. Would be nice if the negative value was retained from redesign, or changing between steps. Very annoying to have to go back and change it AFTER generating the hollows and drain holes
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Tiny annoying thing about model builder thats always bothered me. If you ever need to go back to redesign/step backwards

It always changes the value of the text depth into a positive value, so instead of embossing the text, it becomes positive. Would be nice if the negative value was retained from redesign, or changing between steps. Very annoying to have to go back and change it AFTER generating the hollows and drain holes

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Type, it's confusing.

Totally!

super annoying

This!

Haha. It has been like this as long I can remember. Sure would be nice to finally get rid of it. And also if the shortcuts we know from dental designer could be the same in MB as in DD

Is it set that way in your control panel?

Just set it in your material settings

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Thumb up for B4D. Incredibly fast software improvement.

Good

Blender for dental is the only dental software that teaches you about meshs and how to use meshs how to correct mesh. editing verticies and faces.. 3 shape has been out for over 20 years and doesn't teach any of their technicians nor any of their 3rd party technicians about mesh meshes and how a mesh can become distorted from an oral scan or from a desktop scanner And how to fix those meshes so that the 3 shapes software doesn't lock up on you when you're doing a big case. Again blender for dental is the only dental CAD software true CAD software that educates you on how to fix mesh verticies. 3shape none exocad teach you any of that. 3 shaped came out in I think 2007 2008 and it wasn't until what 20 years later they finally have a mesh correctioning. 3 shape is just a graphical user interface to make it easy for anybody to design any type of case you don't even have to be a certified dental technician you can be somebody off the street and make any type of Crown or case using 3 shape. So what I'm saying is you need less experience to use X ocad or 3 shapes software then you do blender you need more cad experience and understanding from a engineering standpoint.

Rafael Galiakberow coming out swinging, I love it!!!!!! 🙂

This is pretty cool!

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8 months ago

Can we have all the refine functionality in model builder 🙏 ... See MoreSee Less

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Germen Versteeg, it depends on how important is it for dentures workflow. Don't you get scans with already inverted normals and with improved boundaries after designing dentures? Please tell 3Shape what problem will it solve for you. Why do you even design digital models in your workflow?

8 months ago

Hi there! I don't know if someone has said it before, but wouldnt it be COOL to be able to use the mirror tool even on simple dyes..? ... See MoreSee Less

Hi there! I dont know if someone has said it before, but wouldnt it be COOL to be able to use the mirror tool even on simple dyes..?

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The "mirror tool" wouldn't apply to frames because there is no set ratio for pontic size. It also doesn't apply to temps because of the same fact that there is little margin data.

8 months ago

This might have been suggested but what about turning the 3D Preview into a web viewer where we can create a link to send to dentist? ... See MoreSee Less

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my3dlink.com I think this is the best option until 3shape adds in something natively

To show your design you mean? You can do this threw 3shape communicate

I think 2022 will have it

Awesome suggestion!!

8 months ago

To make life really easy can we have the align to bite and additional scan option added to 3D viewer so we can get rid of the ghost orders🙏🙏 ... See MoreSee Less

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Dummy orders take too much space and time. I agree.

💯

Samir Zubcevic please align use case with Germen Versteeg next week😊

8 months ago

It would be very helpful to be able to refine normal models (I know you can import them as digital impression), but it would make us gain some time if this option was available for every type of scans directly ... See MoreSee Less

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Not only that but also being able to prepare a watertight model for printing. We cut the bases off of all watertight scans and run them through model builder as digital impressions. Would be faster if we didn't have to do that additional step.

8 months ago

It would be great if you could rotate a CT scan in the crop stage of Implant Studio. ... See MoreSee Less

8 months ago

Can we drop the lingual green line on upper and lower bicuspids? I think the step is too big and we had a handful of people complain about it when I didn't alter it. ... See MoreSee Less

Can we drop the lingual green line on upper and lower bicuspids? I think the step is too big and we had a handful of people complain about it when I didnt alter it.Image attachment

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I always sculpt the linguals of the anteriors to cover more

Yes great idea, we always have to fill that gap

We also had complaints when forgotten 😊

8 months ago

Please add the sculpt step before trimming the scan, that would be a big help. ... See MoreSee Less

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In the words of Minh Tran . It's almost like we need all tool's available at all times.. 🙃

8 months ago

A denture base collision warning please, I sometimes forget to check. I get warned about the green line on the teeth every time, lol. ... See MoreSee Less

A denture base collision warning please, I sometimes forget to check. I get warned about the green line on the teeth every time, lol.

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looks like you need to open the bite 🙂

8 months ago

Medit software assigns different colours for different scans. Can we have this option for the additional scan? It is difficult to control the visibility sliders when I have many additional scans because I have to hover over the sliders to see the name of the files. ... See MoreSee Less

Medit software assigns different colours for different scans. Can we have this option for the additional scan? It is difficult to control the visibility sliders when I have many additional scans because I have to hover over the sliders to see the name of the files.
8 months ago

After all the years we have been working with 3shape and IOS orders I wonder this ....

Why is there not a provision when we align ScanBodies to SCULPT the model once we have the alignment completed.

We all know if there is not an emergence scan the smart thing to do is to copy the scan locator scan and MAKE one so we can sculpt this prior but it seems like such a simple and intuitive fix.

I get why we can't just sculpt the working model on the fly but at this step there is nothing done in the design tree that will be affected.
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Generally speaking sculpt should always be the first tool available to clean ios scans and remove artifacts before trimming the borders

It’s almost as if we needed… any tool… at any time 🤓

Dear god. You said it

9 months ago

Can we get a reduction jig for carded teeth. Milled and printed teeth are fine, but aesthetically a carded, layered, cross-linked denture tooth is much better looking.

Having a printable jig that we can use to quickly zip off any denture teeth for setting into a printed or milled base would make it a much more viable digital production method.
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There are some patents surrounding this from various companies, wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason why it isn't available. You can use the option for base + teeth with basal reduction, print the denture base with tooth sockets and the holes that penetrate through it and then reduce manually after placing the carded teeth in that denture base

A-Amen 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

I was more thinking about a way undermilled base. Glue the teeth in and then the machine mills away. Tooth base will be visual at the end, but it doesn't matter.

9 months ago

Model maker is a great feature. Is there any possibility to adding a Tag to the created model ? If not, could this be developed ?
Thanks
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Tag as in name?

9 months ago

Can we get a final sculpt for monoblock dentures? For cases like this, where we want to pick up temp cylinders for a try-in, punching holes using the parametric shapes>cylinder hole would make things much quicker than having to bring this into copy denture

Or sometimes when we finish the monoblock, there's a spot I see that just needs to be sculpted a bit, but often I won't bother because going back to sculpt teeth/gingiva will throw the coupling step and waste so much time re-calculating the assembly even though there's no assembly for monoblocks
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Can we get a final sculpt for monoblock dentures? For cases like this, where we want to pick up temp cylinders for a try-in, punching holes using the parametric shapes>cylinder hole would make things much quicker than having to bring this into copy denture

Or sometimes when we finish the monoblock, theres a spot I see that just needs to be sculpted a bit, but often I wont bother because going back to sculpt teeth/gingiva will throw the coupling step and waste so much time re-calculating the assembly even though theres no assembly for monoblocks