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Our mission is to be your go to source for quick, easy, and FREE help with anything related to 3Shape Dental System or the Trios Intraoral Scanner.

We know digital dentistry can be tough, and like a lot of technicians and dentists, I know I struggled managing all the ins and outs of moving from conventional to digital dentistry. I still do!

That is where this group comes in. As of this writing, we have more than 30,000(!) members from over 235 countries that can help you with whatever it is you can’t quite figure out. We invite you to post your cases, workflows, comments, and photos as we all work together to help one another!

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-Michael Frazier

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1 day ago

It seems when designing a denture from a digital impression, this "refine scan" is never saved. When the software crashes or I reopen the order for changes, this step always has to be redone and is not saved. ... See MoreSee Less

It seems when designing a denture from a digital impression, this refine scan is never saved. When the software crashes or I reopen the order for changes, this step always has to be redone and is not saved.

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It's strange, we have dedicated test to make sure everything is saved for reopen. Thank you for the information, will check with R&D

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1 week ago

Would like to program rt mouse click as undo. Would be helpful during design. ... See MoreSee Less

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I have a Logitech mouse and I just program G7 as undo so it’s a quick tap of my thumb

Just program a button on the mouse, cause once you program rt click it is global ๐Ÿ˜†

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2 weeks ago

I wish we could draw a โ€œprotection splineโ€ around the area of the tooth we would like protected when performing actions or using tools like connect to margin, individual transformation, individual morphing, wax knife, etc. ... See MoreSee Less

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That would be sweet!

I believe you can allready could you try to use anatomical coping set offset to 0 draw an acclusal stop and offset to margin that you want protected and in last step unchecked sculpt on protected surface. ๐Ÿ˜œ

3 weeks ago

Dear 3shape: Why did I bother paying top dollar for an i7-11700k, and 32GB of the lowest CAS ram I could find when all you're going to do with it is chug along at a steady 9% CPU and use 3GB?? ... See MoreSee Less

Dear 3shape: Why did I bother paying top dollar for an i7-11700k, and 32GB of the lowest CAS ram I could find when all youre going to do with it is chug along at a steady 9% CPU and use 3GB??

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Could 100% loaded CPUs in all labs lead to global warming?

11 years of software development and they are still saving us a lot of money we would have been wasted on buying top pc parts. ๐Ÿ˜€

Well the software is not designed to use so much resources. What you real need is. Minimum I5 ( 4 cores ) 16gb ram DDR3 Ssd ( sata ) Gtx 1050ti or equivalent Performance I7 ( 4 cores ) gen 6/7 or above 32 gb ram DDR4 ( for larger cases ) Nvme SSD Gtx 1070 8gb or above.

All these softwares work great on Ryzen processors and almost half the price. Yet 3shape and exocad promote Pentium processor units!!!

4 weeks ago

Post model builder sculpt tools. Would be nice at the end of model builder (once the hollow and holes have been generated) To be able to post-sculpt and use the same tools as we have during the Prepare step.

Often with these diagnostic temp on prep diagnostic cases, (especially on cases where it's completely additive) I need to use an add/smooth tool to just remove this transition line between the waxup and the existing natural dentition.

Current workaround is to just bring it into copy denture and sculpt because that module handles closed meshes really well... but I imagine it's simply a copy and paste of some code to have it show up at the end of model builder.
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Post model builder sculpt tools. Would be nice at the end of model builder (once the hollow and holes have been generated) To be able to post-sculpt and use the same tools as we have during the Prepare step.

Often with these diagnostic temp on prep diagnostic cases, (especially on cases where its completely additive) I need to use an add/smooth tool to just remove this transition line between the waxup and the existing natural dentition.

Current workaround is to just bring it into copy denture and sculpt because that module handles closed meshes really well... but I imagine its simply a copy and paste of some code to have it show up at the end of model builder.Image attachment

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ANY TOOL! ANY TIME! ANY TOOL! ANY TIME!

Minh Tran.. what about having at the beginning of MB at the occlusal plane tool, to have also the designed teeth. I know the main will be set during the design stage, but sometime you would just like to adjust based on the new design.

Minh Tran What about using sculpt tools at Finalize Design step? youtu.be/t1L8_fS9oYc?list=PL-jAAawc6LWR3WZR6YNHj5S6SpkQEdOrv&t=228? However, better practice with temporary on prepared model will be to use Remove sculpt tool on Prepare Scans step. There you will see the design, and just reduce the original teeth until they are hid below the design. youtu.be/NalyV7CLOMM?list=PL-jAAawc6LWR3WZR6YNHj5S6SpkQEdOrv&t=81 Please correct me if your request is not fulfilled.

Minh Tran.. something like this? Diagnostic Wax-up next level. I rather show this to a client... (Yes, i am aware it is a slightly bigger model, so a higher print cost and takes up more space on the buildplatform.. but it looks soo much better.) When is 3shape able to make fast, smooth and good looking models possible, Mark Smith? Please stop a technician being limited by the so called options a manufacturer "thinks" is needed.. (3Shape and Medit combined does the trick for now) Soo.. i have expressed my frustrations, now i can go to sleep.. Good night all:)

How about just preventing the pre-op from busting through all together?!?!?!

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4 weeks ago

So can we just get away from this whole pretense of an emergence profile step while designing implants? The 2021 exit profile step is even more annoying. Just give me an checkbox in settings to disable it all and be able to connect the crown to the "margin" of the tibase to sculpt manually! ... See MoreSee Less

4 weeks ago

It would be nice if you add a search field to implant systems in control panel. We have a massive number of different manufactures and it takes a long time to find what we need. ... See MoreSee Less

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You can order them and put them in implant groups and etc in your control panel to make it easier for you

thank you I will try

4 weeks ago

Is it just me or would it be rather easy to add a thumbnail of the attachment or the stipple pattern, Yes I have more of the names memorized but even on partials I sometime forget what is what. ... See MoreSee Less

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Yes similar to the way you can see smile libraries Although, I was thinking to myself today about how overwhelming that has gotten and it would be nice to just select a library by name from a drop down list …so basically the exact opposite of what you’re requesting in smile library form๐Ÿ˜…

4 weeks ago

Individual slider for opposing model/opposing anatomy. In large FMR temp on prep diagnostic cases like this, I need to be able to check if the opposing dentition occludes properly without the opposing existing arch in the way. Every other professional CAD software and even photoshop has individual visibility controls... just sayin' ... See MoreSee Less

Individual slider for opposing model/opposing anatomy. In large FMR temp on prep diagnostic cases like this, I need to be able to check if the opposing dentition occludes properly without the opposing existing arch in the way. Every other professional CAD software and even photoshop has individual visibility controls... just sayin

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Man you have too many demands! ๐Ÿ˜

1 month ago

Can we get bigger sculpt tools? Have to add ton of material with max of 3 mm diameter.... ... See MoreSee Less

Can we get bigger sculpt tools? Have to add ton of material with max of 3 mm diameter....

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๐Ÿ’ฏ agree

use morph tool to PULL in a set direction, faster than wax tool in my opinion no matter what size circle

morph it and done๐Ÿ˜‰

1 month ago

Can 3Shape rewrite the program so that all the design history during the Anatomy pre-design won't recalculate during the Anatomy design? It's a long waiting time for big cases. ... See MoreSee Less

Can 3Shape rewrite the program so that all the design history during the Anatomy pre-design wont recalculate during the Anatomy design? Its a long waiting time for big cases.

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It can be enabled in Dental System Control Panel > System Settings > Auto workflow > Fast order redesign.

Keep in mind FeatureCache files are directly linked to the DentalDesignerModellingTree.3ml file, so in case of a corrupted design case copying this folder into a new order will not help with restoring the design.

1 month ago

Please when can we use XML files from MODJAW in designing in Dental System??? Thanks ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป ... See MoreSee Less

Please when can we use XML files from MODJAW in designing in Dental System??? Thanks ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
1 month ago

would be nice if all scans could just be refined automatically as a background task while I sleep instead of waiting at the beginning of each design. ... See MoreSee Less

would be nice if all scans could just be refined automatically as a background task while I sleep instead of waiting at the beginning of each design.Image attachment

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Attention Minh: This is not a redbull break

I also think there should be a way to sculpt the scan BEFORE you set the cut line, so often there is an artifact that will not allow you to set the cut spline because of it.

It's like the engineers don't actually use their software ๐Ÿ˜‰

I would love to refine scans in the Trios software BEFORE exporting them.

I think Marc can write a script for that! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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1 month ago

something needs to be done about the download center... fresh install, Sabrent rocket 4.0 nvme drive, 10gbe ethernet, 11700k cpu, low cas ram... and downloading simple dme files hangs after 40 minutes with no movement. ... See MoreSee Less

something needs to be done about the download center... fresh install, Sabrent rocket 4.0 nvme drive, 10gbe ethernet, 11700k cpu, low cas ram... and downloading simple dme files hangs after 40 minutes with no movement.

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Nope, nothing needs to be done! SW is 80% working and you are using it, so whooooo cares….๐Ÿ™„

It’s a pain point๐Ÿ˜ž we know

That's the frustrating thing with 3Shape... You can throw any amount of computing power at it, but it's not able to make us of it. I mean, even right-clicking a case in Dental Manager (something users do hundreds of times a day) hangs and takes several seconds to respond, leading to mis-clicks and wrong inputs.

1 month ago

Why is 3 point alignment not available in Trios software? Am I missing something? ... See MoreSee Less

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It should be in latest version

1 month ago

Hi everyone
What the name of this implant ??
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Hi everyone 
What the name of this implant ??

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Brand: NobelBiocare implant connection NobelReplace

Replace select Nobel Biocare RP

Yellow Nobel replace Rp, pinks are Np

Nobel biocare replace select

Nobel biocare Replace select- RP Trichanal 4.3

Pink colour NP, blue colour WP

Thank you everyone ๐Ÿ˜Š

Mickey The Mouse

Replace

Could be Southen implant tri-nex too 3,5mm 4.5mm

Trilobe

Nobel biocare

Trilobe

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1 month ago

new selection trimming tool in 2021 is great, but would be nice if we had a "select all" "undo" "redo" (ctrl+a, ctrl+z, ctrl+y) as buttons and shortcuts ... See MoreSee Less

new selection trimming tool in 2021 is great, but would be nice if we had a select all undo redo (ctrl+a, ctrl+z, ctrl+y) as buttons and shortcuts
1 month ago

I needed to create a protrusion on a custom tray for an obturator. I noticed that 3Shape will let you sculpt on the intaglio but wont let you set an attachment.

A workaround that I did was to place the attachment, then sculpt around it for the general shape i needed. However, it would be cleaner and quicker to use an attachment, instead.
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Just an idea: Could you import the custom tray as the digital cast, and in the refine cast section, select this is a scan of an impression (to flip the working side), and then just temp on prepared model/whatever and just add the attachments. Then append design to preparation scan?

1 month ago

very similar to John Wilson's problem with denture teeth... we need an option to right click > add a tooth that was previously removed.

Patient saw this smile design and decided that they want to do bicuspids... Now I basically have to reset my entire design or undo until I get back to the step where I deleted the premolars...๐Ÿ™„
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very similar to John Wilsons problem with denture teeth... we need an option to right click > add a tooth that was previously removed.

Patient saw this smile design and decided that they want to do bicuspids... Now I basically have to reset my entire design or undo until I get back to the step where I deleted the premolars...๐Ÿ™„
2 months ago

Removal of only the lower 1st bicuspids during design. Thank you! (Full Dentures) ... See MoreSee Less

Removal of only the lower 1st bicuspids during design. Thank you! (Full Dentures)

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That is brilliant...would make setting up up class 2 bite so much easier

Yes please

AND the ability to translate ONLY max or mand arch in their entirety independent of the other.

How about: Remove pretty much any tooth I want?

2 months ago

A Boolean tool. With additional scans we can save multiple objects as one file but they arenโ€™t truly one for further processing for most things. Wouldnโ€™t it be cool to click on the objects that we need booleaned from within the design and select and then save? TIME SAVER! ... See MoreSee Less

A Boolean tool. With additional scans we can save multiple objects as one file but they arenโ€™t truly one for further processing for most things. Wouldnโ€™t it be cool to click on the objects that we need booleaned from within the design and select and then save? TIME SAVER!

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Yes this should be a no brainer it's the most basic of simple CAD operations.

It would mean chaos and disaster. Power beyond all power too often corrupted by the greed of mankind. Insanity Whitney

Always welcome ๐Ÿ‘Œ

2 months ago

transformation tool for ID Tags ... See MoreSee Less

transformation tool for ID Tags
2 months ago

Left: Standalone 3D Viewer
Right: Dental Manager 3D Viewer
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Left: Standalone 3D Viewer
Right: Dental Manager 3D ViewerImage attachment

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That’s why you should use my Colors 3rd Party App. ๐Ÿ˜‰. www.facebook.com/groups/672247806173300/permalink/4339825209415523/

If your 3d viewer is separate instal not with ds you shoul have one xml file (i need to check the name) from original installer

Omfg yes

2 months ago

Oh I had a dream once. It was a dream where the additional scans tool had an additional bite tool where I could import a new bite and move both upper and lower models with all the margins and crowns. If I can keep dreaming I also see being able to align a bite scan to a cad design directly. For example, being able to place alignment points on the cad design of the teeth itself. A common occurance that should be very easy buy ends up being very hard, is when I inherit a disaster case full of upper and lower temps where the dentist keeps taking new bites over the temps. So theoretically I would have an upper and lower model of the last temp attempt, and a bite, and I would be able to mount it, scan the bite, import the bite into the old design, align the bite scan to the cad teeth of the design, and move both arches with all the teeth and everything. It would take minutes. Mannn that would be soooo sweeeettttt ... See MoreSee Less

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Yeah, that’s hot

2 months ago

Okay here's a good one! Hold shift/control to bring down all the points at once like a belt around the prep so you can recalc. easily ... See MoreSee Less

Okay heres a good one! Hold shift/control to bring down all the points at once like a belt around the prep so you can recalc. easily

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That’d be great

Mill IT!!

Or clear and click dots in like 5 sec. Lol

2 months ago

DEAR FRIENDS OF 3SHAPE..
im not sure, if you create this on the new versions 2021, but if you dont, i suggest to make a PREP VENNER ON MODEL, we only have for crowns... and if you make for venners it can help us a lot.
Something like a CUTTBACK... on model so we can make models with preps and parameters controling insertion and finish line to help doctors... and propably this TOOL can be used with CBCT and to make Preps guided.
Thanks in advance
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DEAR FRIENDS OF 3SHAPE..
im not sure, if you create this on the new versions 2021, but if you dont, i suggest to make a PREP VENNER ON MODEL, we only have for crowns... and if you make for venners it can help us a lot.
Something like a CUTTBACK... on model so we can make models with preps and parameters controling insertion and finish line to help doctors... and propably this TOOL can be used with CBCT and to make Preps guided. 
Thanks in advance

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You can set it for veneer as well , as I remember once you draw the margin you will reach the veneer, correct me please if you try it out well

Soon Dr's want to send the patient to the lab let them do all the work and just charge the patient๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

3 months ago

Hi experts, I mainly use 3shape in my work place, my boss got this link from exocad today, he said this is good , and asked me do that way, if dentist wants to see the design, we should send report like this as well.
Does 3shape has this function as well or something similar? If not, 3shape has better to have this function please,thank you
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Hi experts, I mainly use 3shape in my work place, my boss got this link from exocad today, he said this is good , and asked me do that way, if dentist wants to see the design, we should send report like this as well. 
  Does 3shape has this function as well or something similar? If not, 3shape has better to have this function please,thank youImage attachment

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This would be an awesome feature on 3shape honestly!

Web view is awesome. 3shape doesn't have anything like it right now. If you are on 2020 right click advanced export visualization output. Go to the database directed in visualization output fder there will be stl files all in coordinates. You can send that to the doc. They just need a free stk viewer. 3shape has a standalone 3d viewer. Trust us we have all been asking for this.

Mark Smith!!!

There is a way… but it’s not a “one button” solution

That would be sweet. Right now I make videos using TinyTake. It's a great free program for recording and stories videos. I just run the links through bitly to shorten them as the TinyTake address get blocked by Gmail sometimes.

You can send any order through communicate and they can see the design in the communicate portal or the phone app. Easy.

Mark Smith 2

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3 months ago

We have a problem with exporting case from 21 to 20.
2020 at opening case looses module. Case will not open and no option for designing. Will open MB though. After changing year in case script it gives older version warning and we loose design.
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We have a problem with exporting case from 21 to 20. 
2020 at opening case looses module. Case will not open and no option for designing. Will open MB though. After changing year in case script it gives older version warning and we loose design.Image attachmentImage attachment

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I noticed After you import and the case rx open it messes things up try to import but do not open the case once imported.

Ive never had much luck going backwards into older DS versions.

Backward compatibility almost never worked for me, either. I'm not sure why that option is even there giving me a false expectation. I keep one computer with previous software version and it is an expensive method.

3 months ago

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Oh snap kid!

So what? We’ve been using Crossmanager for years

Medit is doing a lot of interesting things. Clearly talented programmers.

Minh Tran can you define „files“ - only point cloud? Texture? Additional information?

We are watching, but users both for TRIOS and lab has been to exporting STL files etc for years so what is big change here? Mark Smith Will reach out to you to discuss it.

Easy, use crossmanager and change the format to STL ๐Ÿ˜‰ or use appliance designer and export as STL ๐Ÿ˜‰

Too late , medit took over

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3 months ago

Can tibases be rotated in the waxup bridge workflow using 2021? If not, please please add this. Itโ€™s a huge roadblock when doing the screw retained bridge workflow and needing an ASC. Or am I overlooking a solution for this in 2020? ๐Ÿคž ... See MoreSee Less

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Haven’t used waxup bridge in ages… is this a thing in there? “Rotate it during the emergence profile step by hitting the advanced button” fb.watch/7ajCBvhqak/

Good question, actually not sure since I use DESS and don’t need to rotate. However the new workflow is basicly the same as waxupbridge. Design -> add gingiva -> merge -> connect to implant. So it is changes in 2021. And worst case if you can’t connect. You can wxport your design as a waxupbridge and try that route. Had been some minor bugs but mostly working excellent now for me.

3 months ago

I was very excited for the 2021 update in regards to adding a name tag to the dentures, however it does not apply to CAM5 files only to STL files, I was going to test how it would mill but I canโ€™t apply it to my milling files ... See MoreSee Less

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Hi, Pam! May, I ask you to share with me few cam5 files from the order with ID tag? I will check what is wrong with it

And could you please contact Ivoclar reps and check if you have the latest software for the mill?

3 months ago

Hi Team, how to get a model from existing denture?? Thanks ... See MoreSee Less

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You can do the boxing to pour a model from the denture

But you have to put oil or separator

Use the copy denture button. Scan both sides...output an STL and print

Set work order up for a denture design, on the top right select impression, two single trays and a triple tray. Make sure the dentures are stuck together in occlusion for all the scans, scan the upper/lower/bite You will have two models in occlusion

Do it in medit compare. It is free and you just cut out the teeth and flip the meshes.

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3 months ago

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im selling
3 months ago

Sure would be great if the little plus sign next to the customer name that opens the control panel to add a new client would need a double click or some other confirmation like "are you sure you want to go to the control panel to add a client". Frustrates the heck out of me when I click on it by mistake and I am locked out till I can close the damn CP 3 min later. Now I know I am a fumble finger at times but can I get an AMEN from everyone that has been in this mindset? ... See MoreSee Less

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Yes a even single is fine, just a pop up window, are you sure? Lol Also the damn ~ keynext to the #1 key freaking hate it when I press it and it opens up the smile library! ๐Ÿคฆ‍โ™‚๏ธ

I really thought this one was going to get a bunch of comments must only be me

True story: not sure what I did on my reinstall but I could open CP and it didn’t shut anything down. But I do remember the olden days before this and how annoyed I would be when I accidentally hit the CP and and had to wait 3 minutes ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ AMEN John Wilson!!! โœŠ๐ŸผโœŠ๐Ÿผ

Amen!

Yes Modelbuilder team at 3Shape needs to get their shit together. Been complaining for many years. Maybe finally someone will actually listen or the new kid on the block slowly will take their bussiness. Rafael Galiakberow Rune Fisker

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6 months ago

This error has been plaguing us more and more, itโ€™s almost every other case at this point. The tooth is clearly not even close to the gingival boundary. I have been told itโ€™s from a scan artifact, I use an E4 scanner and I am purposefully adding additional scans 3-4 times to make sure the scanned mesh is as dense as possible and I still get the error. I have also taken my scans into a dummy order and cleaned them, and even tried cleaning them in a separate software like mesh mixer and still get this error. I can eventually push it through with several tricks but it is very time consuming, sometimes adding 1-2 hours to what should be a 30 minute design. Sometimes as a last resort I have to move the teeth more anterior/posterior to get it to push through in time, and I shouldnโ€™t have to be sacrificing my design aesthetics to push through an error. I have checked with some other clinics and they are also having the same reoccurring error.

Sorry for the long rant! Hopefully this can be looked into!
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This error has been plaguing us more and more, itโ€™s almost every other case at this point. The tooth is clearly not even close to the gingival boundary. I have been told itโ€™s from a scan artifact, I use an E4 scanner and I am purposefully adding additional scans 3-4 times to make sure the scanned mesh is as dense as possible and I still get the error. I have also taken my scans into a dummy order and cleaned them, and even tried cleaning them in a separate software like mesh mixer and still get this error. I can eventually push it through with several tricks but it is very time consuming, sometimes adding 1-2 hours to what should be a 30 minute design. Sometimes as a last resort I have to move the teeth more anterior/posterior to get it to push through in time, and I shouldnโ€™t have to be sacrificing my design aesthetics to push through an error. I have checked with some other clinics and they are also having the same reoccurring error. 

Sorry for the long rant! Hopefully this can be looked into!

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Frustrating. There really should be an option to just “ignore and let me ram my design through” In the meantime.. Try creating a duplicate order and setting the object type to digital impression and using the refine scans tool to clean things up. Not sure if it’ll work... but then use the additional scans tool to export those cleaned scans out. Worth a shot at least.

Close order, move affected teeth by just a fraction and it'll go through....90% of the time.

Hi, Pam. Could you please send few cases with the error via feedback form? And please - send it before fix, so that we'll be able to reproduce it

When I get this error, I zoom in and look at interproximals checking for the purple guide line. Back up to Sculpt Base and add in that area where the purple was to plump it up. Sometimes its one spot. Sometimes its a couple. But it always gets me through.

3 months ago

I am loving the ability to design partials and compete dentures at the same time!! It's so much quicker!!

But of course I have a few more wishes:
1. When designing the partials in this way, the mesial/distal edge of a denture tooth can not be cut into the adjacent natural tooth (in the framework design software this is possible)
1. When checking for contacts the distance map only works between denture teeth, it does not show contact between the upper complete denture teeth and the natural opposing teeth (when designing a single denture vs natural teeth the distance map works)
1. I still use metal frameworks, and so the teeth are designed over a scan of the model with a framework, and so the tissue is not as important for the majority of my designs. It would be nice to have to not worry about the coupling mechanism and fussing with the wax up to make it push through (in the framework software you can cut the sockets at the end but the coupling mechanism isn't necessary)

I understand that some of these are difficult to change with the way the software is currently set up, and I am thrilled with the improvements 2021 has come with, just throwing out some ideas for the future!
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I am loving the ability to design partials and compete dentures at the same time!! Its so much quicker!!

But of course I have a few more wishes:
1. When designing the partials in this way, the mesial/distal edge of a denture tooth can not be cut into the adjacent natural tooth (in the framework design software this is possible) 
1. When checking for contacts the distance map only works between denture teeth, it does not show contact between the upper complete denture teeth and the natural opposing teeth (when designing a single denture vs natural teeth the distance map works)
1. I still use metal frameworks, and so the teeth are designed over a scan of the model with a framework, and so the tissue is not as important for the majority of my designs. It would be nice to have to not worry about the coupling mechanism and fussing with the wax up to make it push through (in the framework software you can cut the sockets at the end but the coupling mechanism isnt necessary)  

I understand that some of these are difficult to change with the way the software is currently set up, and I am thrilled with the improvements 2021 has come with, just throwing out some ideas for the future!

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One more addition -the copy reuse cad function does not work very well if you are designing teeth to sit on a metal framework. If the partial alignment was based off the previous model (similar to how a single arch works) that would make the alignment easier because I have "set" these partial segments onto a model with wax, and so it will no longer align. there are work arounds for a new bite but using the copy reuse cad would be the simplest ๐Ÿ™‚

3 months ago

When planning a base for automatic aligner trimming, it would be great if the base height could be a parametric value based on requirements of the trimming machine (e.g. trim path must be 4.5mm from the bottom of the base) rather than chosen every time by the operator. This would save resin and avoid problems at the CNC machine. An alternative would be to add an orange warning zone below the trimming path when a problem is predicted. The full workflow video can be found at www.ortho-automation.com in case this request is not clear. ... See MoreSee Less

When planning a base for automatic aligner trimming, it would be great if the base height could be a parametric value based on requirements of the trimming machine (e.g. trim path must be 4.5mm from the bottom of the base)  rather than chosen every time by the operator.  This would save resin and avoid problems at the CNC machine.   An alternative would be to add an orange warning zone below the trimming path when a problem is predicted.  The full workflow video can be found at www.ortho-automation.com in case this request is not clear.
3 months ago

Dear Colleagues, I am selling my Artex CR for $365 in perfect condition! If anyone wants, please write to me... ... See MoreSee Less

Dear Colleagues, I am selling my Artex CR for $365 in perfect condition! If anyone wants, please write to me...Image attachmentImage attachment
3 months ago
ETK - UK

Our R&D department has amazed us again by incorporating our new tissue level implant #iboneG with the simplicity of the iPhysio Profile Designer.
#iphysio #implantsurgery #ETK #Ibone #digitaldentistry #dental #dentistry
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Our R&D department has amazed us again by incorporating our new tissue level implant #iboneG with the simplicity of the iPhysio Profile Designer. 
#iphysio #implantsurgery #ETK #Ibone #digitaldentistry #dental #dentistry
3 months ago

It would be very nice for when using attachments there was the option to select and deselect which attachments to be active at the same time. 1,3, or all, whatever the combination. This would save LOADS of time in many scenarios.

Also, when extending the length of the base of the large handle attachment in the custom tray order, it would be awesome if it didnโ€™t make the handle extremely disproportionate to the base. ๐Ÿฆท๐Ÿค“๐Ÿ––๐Ÿผ
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4 months ago

It would be wonderful to be able to output multiple formats automatically. I lot of us have multiple milling machines with different software and it would be great to get an STL with Millbox margin files as well as a Cam5. Sometimes you don't know which machine you are going to use and using stl for everything is inefficient. I wonder even if the DLL could be programmed to launch a second DLL right after.... Hmm..... ... See MoreSee Less

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For anyone familiar with Adobe premiere or Adobe after effects… you can send your project to Adobe media encoder after you’re done and you can select your output options there. For iPhone/YouTube/4K/h.264/hevc etc.

4 months ago

3shape model builder better watch out! ... See MoreSee Less

3shape model builder better watch out!

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Select rpd design for oral scan and you will get the model in 2 clicks...

look at those realistic colours.

Minh Tran Indeed. What parameters of the base generation will you need?

4 months ago

It would be nice to be able design two- or more post and core joined together with Preci horix bar in one step. now its hell to design it ๐Ÿ™‚ ... See MoreSee Less

It would be nice to be able design two- or more post and core  joined together with Preci horix bar in one step. now its hell to design it ๐Ÿ™‚
4 months ago

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4 months ago

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4 months ago

It would be handy in 3shape communicate to forward a case to another 3shape communicate account without having to download it first into DS. ... See MoreSee Less

4 months ago

When designing a denture using the Ivoclar CAM5 split output it would be nice to also have a mono stl file output. There are some instances I need to come back the case and use as an opposing or print as a mono temp or something and itโ€™s annoying to have to change the work order to an stl output and click through the entire design again ... See MoreSee Less

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Great idea! It would be nice to just be able to change things on the fly in general without needing to redesign.

ABSOLUTE NECESSITY

Just use visualization output-in one click you have all the stl files , and no need to do a redesign

Pam Rehm great comments it’s been on the wish list for sometime but the wish has come true Please also post this request in the Ivoclar Digital Denture System Users group ๐Ÿ‹๏ธ‍โ™‚๏ธ Taras Kucher

Hi, Pam Rehm - done in DS 2021 already ๐Ÿ˜Š

Here are the settings to enable STL and monolock in CAM5 in Control Panel ->Manufacturing process

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4 months ago

Question with 3Shape. Can someone help with how to import a bite scan from a IOS? What would you select on the order form in Dental Manager other than digital impression? I want to enter both arches along with bite scan. Thanks! ... See MoreSee Less

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digital impression and 'antagonist + occlusial alignment' then import scans. But you are in the wrong forum!

4 months ago

3shape trios design studio full crack (2021)
Implant studio
TRIOS scan
Smile design TRIOS
Treatment SimulatorTRIOS
Patient Monitoring
Splint Studio......
Lifetime activation .
Attention for info !!!
Teamviewer installation
Price: 299 euro
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3shape trios design studio full crack (2021)
Implant studio 
TRIOS scan
Smile design TRIOS 
Treatment SimulatorTRIOS 
Patient Monitoring
Splint Studio......
Lifetime activation . 
Attention for info !!!
 Teamviewer installation
 Price: 299 euro
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4 months ago
ETK - UK

Screw retained single unit crown using the iPhysio profile designer
Simplicity is wonderful.
#dental #dentalimplants #digitaldentistry #iphysio #ETK #lyra
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4 months ago

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5 months ago

Hi , 3Shape
Can you make the 'Keep All' button to actually keep all of the scan? Instead of me having to trace manually? Am I missing something here? Is there a better work around?
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Hi , 3Shape
Can you make the Keep All button to actually keep all of the scan? Instead of me having to trace manually? Am I missing something here? Is there a better work around?Image attachment

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Those are currently your only options, you’re not missing something! Someone from 3shape responded to an inquiry about this exact thing before, they said that for removables modules they have to have those jagged edges of the scans cleaned up, so the “keep all” functions remove them. I prefer to set my spline manually because the keep all function cuts off too much!

5 months ago

I CANT STRESS ENOUGH FOR MODEL BUILDER TO BE FIXED!!!!!
Simple solid model with ditched margins doesnโ€™t work!!!!
Spent 5 hours on case, one hour for design 28 single units and 4 hours to build model. At the end model didnโ€™t come out.
Iโ€™m sick and tired apologizing in front of clients for not delivering supreme product I charge for !

!!!!!!UNACCEPTABLE !!!!!
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I regret you had the sad experience. I guess 5hours of troubleshooting was enough to send a feedback report (ctrl+f) and contact support of your reseller. Otherwise how will 3shape get the problematic case and make it working?

Veneers? Trios ?

Did you try turning the computer off and on again>

Power cycle is really important.

The only way I found to avoid a long wait and failed error message in the end is to make an unsectioned model only with dies and deselect 'cut gingiva with the design' and manually cut the gingiva with hand after printing the model. Hahaha. Does anyone know better work around until the MB gets fixed?

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5 months ago

Hello everybody. Is it possible to send the client a previous project, such as exocad html, without using 3shape comunicate? Some people don't have 3shape, but I design with it. Thanks ... See MoreSee Less

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Using a 3D pdf.

For 3shape communicate you don't need have 3shape software or dongle nummer. It can install everyone.

5 months ago

Dear @3shape, why give trios users the option of scanning 2 bite registrations if you're not going to do anything with it in dental system?

Oftentimes I find that full arch scans are closed properly on one side but the other side is completely wide open. So then I'm forced to use scansuite, import the scans in using the articulator function with left bite and right bite, then using that alignment scan.

Why isn't there just an option in Align to 2 bites in the prepare step for this same functionality??
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You can combine your 2bite scans as one and to use it for alignment on prepare step

๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ This.

Agree. Trios bites seem a bit of a weakness in the system to me. I’ve even considered printing models, hand articulating and scanning the bite on my desktop. Kinda defeats the point of the workflow and no use unless you have plenty of teeth. Not much fun adjusting bites on mono zi!

Come si caricano 2 morsi insieme?

I trained my clients to scan both bites all the way across from molar to molar and don’t pay attention to a trios ready signal.

Great sugestion ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

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5 months ago

Hi experts, there is โ€œcopyโ€ function in exocad, like adjacent tooth shape is nice, I can use this copy option to copy this adjacent tooth.If there is โ€œcopyโ€ in 3 shape,it would be very good ๐Ÿ˜Œ. Thank you ... See MoreSee Less

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Yes 3shape has copy function if I remember it correctly.

5 months ago

Seems like I'm in Medit Fanboy mode today... but can we please have the option to add alternate e-mail addresses to our communicate account?? We're getting to the point where receiving ios order notifications is becoming too much of a task for one person to manage. So it would be nice if we can add alternate e-mails so we have more than one set of eyeballs checking our inboxes to make sure no cases fall through the cracks. When i initially signed up for these accounts, I used my own e-mail since I was the ENTIRE cad department. We've grown a bit since then so now I don't want our admin staff accessing my e-mails that I use to communicate with clients in case something gets marked as read but never actually got checked into our lab management software. ... See MoreSee Less

Seems like Im in Medit Fanboy mode today... but can we please have the option to add alternate e-mail addresses to our communicate account?? Were getting to the point where receiving ios order notifications is becoming too much of a task for one person to manage. So it would be nice if we can add alternate e-mails so we have more than one set of eyeballs checking our inboxes to make sure no cases fall through the cracks. When i initially signed up for these accounts, I used my own e-mail since I was the ENTIRE cad department. Weve grown a bit since then so now I dont want our admin staff accessing my e-mails that I use to communicate with clients in case something gets marked as read but never actually got checked into our lab management software.Image attachment

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I believe you can update the email address on your 3Shape Communicate Account with a new one that is a shared mailbox so multiple people can access it and not your personal one.

I've set up the people that need to know what's going off on the 3shape app so at least someone picks up a case or two other than me.

Minh Tran you can make rules on Gmail to forward your emails to other addresses I.e.

Przemek Seweryniak Dtg that’s what I do with itero... but I like to nudge 3shape in the right direction whenever I can ๐Ÿ˜

Agree

Agree

Eric Larratt

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5 months ago

I wish we had an easy way to QC designs in 3shape. If I could easily measure contact depth, take a quick glance at neighboring tooth undercut, I would be a VERY happy camper. ... See MoreSee Less

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Me too:)

2021 3d viewer is *slightly* better and includes some of these things

5 months ago

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*cough*: medit web view
5 months ago

Please is there a way of refining a scan to make a model without having to make a crown!
I donโ€™t make crowns nor do I want to just so that I can press a simple refine button!๐Ÿ˜ก
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Jaime Tiziana Brain do not miss Dental System 2.21.1.0

Do the refine then go to the step where the program detects the margine (tooth with green circle around), let the program do the margin and then press the save button. After it saved you can exit

You’ll be happy with version 2021 then.. refine scans in model builder is one of the new features

I just keep a fake crown order handy, import the scan you need to fix, refine, then use the additional scans tool to save the refined model.

5 months ago

We have a case where clinician ask to close one screw hole out of three on implant bridge. It would be nice to have an option to choose each screw hole to close or use.
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I'd also like the option to increase the diameter of individual holes without it forcing ALL holes to change when I increase the offset.

5 months ago

Why is it that windows Snip & Sketch PNG files are so much better compressed than 3shape smile design PNG Files? Also notice how I have an MP4 file in there as well that's also smaller than the PNG files generated by Dental Desktop. The files generated by Dental Desktop are consistently 3-4x larger than snip and sketch with no discernable difference in quality.

When saving an image in photoshop in PNG format, you're given a choice of what file size you'd like to save with, and it typically doesn't affect the final image quality very much, but saves LOADS in file size. This is important because often I'm e-mailing these files (๐Ÿคซshh don't tell the FDA) and gmail has a limit of 25mb before attaching files as a gdrive link which has sharing permission issues sometimes.
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Why is it that windows Snip & Sketch PNG files are so much better compressed than 3shape smile design PNG Files? Also notice how I have an MP4 file in there as well thats also smaller than the PNG files generated by Dental Desktop. The files generated by Dental Desktop are consistently 3-4x larger than snip and sketch with no discernable difference in quality.

When saving an image in photoshop in PNG format, youre given a choice of what file size youd like to save with, and it typically doesnt affect the final image quality very much, but saves LOADS in file size. This is important because often Im e-mailing these files (๐Ÿคซshh dont tell the FDA) and gmail has a limit of 25mb before attaching files as a gdrive link which has sharing permission issues sometimes.Image attachmentImage attachment

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15mb? whats in it thats so extra?

5 months ago

I wish symmetrical movements like this were available for use with the Individual Transformation tool. I would be THRILLED! ... See MoreSee Less

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Yes!!! Just like the denture module!!

5 months ago

I want the see the section of the visible element only. In this case, only the upper jaw scan instead of seeing all scans including the additional scans and crown. ... See MoreSee Less

I want the see the section of the visible element only. In this case, only the upper jaw scan instead of seeing all scans including the additional scans and crown.

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If you turn of visualization sliders go touch the slice control point to update the 2D view. Just touch or hover the control to make active for a moment

6 months ago

Medit Link's App Box is AMAZING... 3shape download center needs to take notes ... See MoreSee Less

Medit Links App Box is AMAZING... 3shape download center needs to take notesImage attachment

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I do like the modules menu for Medit link too. 3Shape TRIOS does have something similar where you can deactivate software for it. As for libraries, that's a lot libraries at once! ๐Ÿ˜‰

Did you purchase for those libraries unlocked?

6 months ago

FULL SCREEN MODE
Hides all but your design while you spend time using keyboard shortcuts to whiiiip through.
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Dual screen mode: design window on one screen with no UI elements and all tools on screen 2

You guys are asking for too much why not just ask for the damn program not to snap to front when you are doing other things and want it to just rebuild a case quietly in the background

6 months ago

At the end of scanning, it would be nice to have an "Automate" button. ... See MoreSee Less

At the end of scanning, it would be nice to have an Automate button.

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It would be nice if 3shape could come to my lab and scan the cases too.

Coming soon! ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

It bad impression for the upper

6 months ago

For cases with both upper and lower crowns, can we NOT have the opposing arch automatically attach on the first step? I know it's not a big deal to click on the opposing arch and press undo... but still ... See MoreSee Less

For cases with both upper and lower crowns, can we NOT have the opposing arch automatically attach on the first step? I know its not a big deal to click on the opposing arch and press undo... but still
6 months ago

Hello 3shape.
This is a SCREAM for help.
Do something about model builder please. 3-4 hours of work around to build simple C&B solid model with ditched margins is not adequate to the price we pay for licensing.
And you must know Iโ€™m not a rookie here.
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Hello 3shape. 
This is a SCREAM for help. 
Do something about model builder please. 3-4 hours of work around to build simple C&B solid model with ditched margins is not adequate to the price we pay for licensing. 
And you must know Iโ€™m not a rookie here.

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I’m sorry.

Had one about a month ago that took 4 hours and 3 different orders๐Ÿฅต The design of the 28 upper and lowers took 2 hours... building the model took 4๐Ÿค”

I couldn’t agree more for this scream for help! This model builder is the most frustrating out of all model builder softwares!!!

Artem Derii

Setting the ditch height to the smallest (0.1mm) seems to work. I know. What's the point of ditching to 0.1? Its easier to manually remove some areas around the margin on the 3D printed unsectioned model than trying to do it with the MB. Hahaha. I only use the unsectioned model with separate dies.

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6 months ago

Not sure if anyone has already suggested this, and hopefully Iโ€™m not alone on this, but I think it would be rad if it saved our abutment designs. ... See MoreSee Less

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Can you clarify a bit what you mean? Because you can attach a “core file” or use a split file to reuse abutments

You can in a way but with out the interface portion. What you looking to do with it?

I save the design before and after assembley with additional scans tool, later when I rescan the manufactured abutment, i align those die scans to the designs i previously saved, and makup a prep arch with my die scans of my abutments in correct position.

6 months ago

Please dont ask for insertiondirection when designing temp on prepared model. Entering 28 times for no reason is soooo annoying and timeconsuming.... ... See MoreSee Less

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Bridge them together, it’ll only ask for one direction

Just bridge them next time, then theres only one insertion direction

6 months ago

Double click to go to opposite view.

On the sidebar, we used to have the option for Top view, bottom view, front view, rear view, right side view, and left side view.
Not sure when they condensed it down to front, rear, top, and set view. But in Asiga Composer, if you click twice on a view button, it will take you to the opposite view.
So for example, if I click the Top view button once = top view, if I click it twice, bottom view. click on the front view once = front, click twice = rear. Click left view twice = right.
Really, they should change this side menu to Top View, Front View, Right side view so you're able to access all views via a mouse click rather than having to remember ctrl+alt+arrow key shortcuts that aren't intuitive to all users (especially new ones) Or give us the option to right click and choose which views we'd like to have set there.
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Double click to go to opposite view. 

On the sidebar, we used to have the option for Top view, bottom view, front view, rear view, right side view, and left side view. 
Not sure when they condensed it down to front, rear, top, and set view. But in Asiga Composer, if you click twice on a view button, it will take you to the opposite view.
 So for example, if I click the Top view button once = top view, if I click it twice, bottom view. click on the front view once = front, click twice = rear. Click left view twice = right. 
Really, they should change this side menu to Top View, Front View, Right side view so youre able to access all views via a mouse click rather than having to remember ctrl+alt+arrow key shortcuts that arent intuitive to all users (especially new ones) Or give us the option to right click and choose which views wed like to have set there.
6 months ago

Ok it would be nice to have a actual tissue stop button for custom trays ... See MoreSee Less

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All you have to do is use the add wax knife function and click “preparation scan” then add to the fitting surface of the tray. Works quite well and looks like this

6 months ago

I wish I had both these tools, for almost anything. Stipple looks like Covid virus. ... See MoreSee Less

I wish I had both these tools, for almost anything.  Stipple looks like Covid virus.
7 months ago

Can we get the ID tags to face the proper direction? When I mount printed models, the upper ID is upside down. ... See MoreSee Less

Can we get the ID tags to face the proper direction?  When I mount printed models, the upper ID is upside down.

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Katrina Emirzian yes, we will implement that.

I don’t remember how anymore but it’s just a matter of adjusting something in the settings.

Should Model Builder flip ID tag orientation for upper jaws also for cases without an antagonist model?

It's been like that from day one. Lol

Hold shift control and press any arrow key...

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7 months ago

Align anatomy for reuse to additional scans.

Often on big cases, we create an initial diagnostic, produce shell temps, then long-term provisionals, and finally the definitive restorations. So the nice thing is that once the original design is locked in and approved, you can just anatomy for reuse that baby all the way through.

Of course, between each appointment, there are adjustments and tweaks so the doctor always makes adjustments and rescans so we have the most current record of occlusion/contours to mimic for the next step.

On the DentalSystem side, we will grab the preceding anatomy elements and paste that into the folder for reuse. I usually right click > copy and append cad design to preparation scan.

Then I'll bring that appended scan as an additional scan for reference, align it to the new scan, and then eyeball the position of the reuse anatomy until it's as close as I can get it to the appeneded scan.

Pair this with Przemek Seweryniak Dtg annual suggestion of precise distance to additional scan and we have an extremely quick and easy way to reuse designs on these massive cases.
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Align anatomy for reuse to additional scans.

Often on big cases, we create an initial diagnostic, produce shell temps, then long-term provisionals, and finally the definitive restorations. So the nice thing is that once the original design is locked in and approved, you can just anatomy for reuse that baby all the way through.

Of course, between each appointment, there are adjustments and tweaks so the doctor always makes adjustments and rescans so we have the most current record of occlusion/contours to mimic for the next step.

On the DentalSystem side, we will grab the preceding anatomy elements and paste that into the folder for reuse.  I usually right click > copy and append cad design to preparation scan.

Then Ill bring that appended scan as an additional scan for reference, align it to the new scan, and then eyeball the position of the reuse anatomy until its as close as I can get it to the appeneded scan.

Pair this with Przemek Seweryniak Dtg annual suggestion of precise distance to additional scan and we have an extremely quick and easy way to reuse designs on these massive cases.

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a typical "best fit" scenario looks like this for me using the above method... it's within +/- 20 microns everywhere... but still... Takes a significant amount of time and effort.

I align the new scans to the original scans, that way my anatomy for reuse is in perfect position ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

7 months ago

Save settings as new template directly from within Dental Designer.
In this example, I'm doing a modified die interface setting for these tabletops (veneers) and I want to apply the same settings to the remaining 5 veneers.
Typically, you would need to exit out, go to control panel, create a new die interface, remember your exact settings that you had in Dental Designer etc.
If you had an option to "Save current settings as new template" and then select it for the next 5 dies on the fly... that would be amazing.
Adding an "Apply to all" would be a dream come true when paired with this.
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Save settings as new template directly from within Dental Designer. 
In this example, Im doing a modified die interface setting for these tabletops (veneers) and I want to apply the same settings to the remaining 5 veneers. 
Typically, you would need to exit out, go to control panel, create a new die interface, remember your exact settings that you had in Dental Designer etc.
If you had an option to Save current settings as new template and then select it for the next 5 dies on the fly... that would be amazing.
Adding an Apply to all would be a dream come true when paired with this.
7 months ago

Splint studio, we need option to trim scans, especially from IOS... ... See MoreSee Less

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Ales Tomsic , thank you for suggestion. Does it mean that the trimming tool on the Prepare step is not that you need?

7 months ago

It really is way more intuitive in the partial designer software that at the end of the frame design in addition to the pocket cutting tool you should be able to cut the denture teeth to the frame here. After we go through all the steps to make sure the frame dimension is perfect one click we should be able to cut teeth to pattern. ... See MoreSee Less